No More Trousers For Redeemed Ladies, Adeboye Orders

[vronnie]

No More Trousers For Redeemed Ladies, Adeboye Orders


Outlandish women who attend the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) are in for trouble as the General Overseer of the Church, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, has banned them from wearing trousers to church.

The man of God, popularly known as Daddy G.O., decided to shed his garb of softness and impose punitive measures on female worshippers who always wear skimpy dresses and tightfitting trousers to church.

Adeboye was said to have warned and threatened to sanction female members who flout the order.

The General Overseer’s riot act to female worshippers was published in a recent bulletin of the church.

The enforcement may begin at the RCCG annual convention which is going on at its Redemption Camp, Km 45, Lagos-Ibadan Expressway where millions of worshippers gather for the annual event.

Until recently, a large number of women who wore trousers to the church were tolerated in their quest to attract male worshippers.

Unknown to these women in skimpy dresses, they had unwittingly divided the RCCG into two camps: the conservative worshippers on the one hand and the radical ones on the other. The radical ones are the modern day worshippers who feel they could wear anything to church, no matter how skimpy it is, while the conservatives are the old time Redeemers who still keep to the standards in the Bible in their mode of dressing and general comportment while in the church.

P.M.News gathered that it was in a bid to sanitise the RCCG that Daddy G.O. decided to ban women from wearing trousers which is offensive to other worshippers.

Adeboye’s ban coincided with the ongoing onslaught by the police against women who wear trousers and skimpy dresses on the streets of Lagos.

The police onslaught is also to sanitise the state and discourage prostitution and commercial sex workers who often habour criminals and other anti-social elements.

[oluranti]

Worldliness creeps quietly into the church. This sanction is long overdue. It goes further to settle some issueson the thread that is discussing women in men's clothing. We ,ve heard the view of a spokesman of God. It is a welcome move!

[vronnie]

I don't disagree it but the bible says come as you are.

[Yago]

Worldliness creeps quietly into the church. This sanction is long overdue. It goes further to settle some issueson the thread that is discussing women in men's clothing. We ,ve heard the view of a spokesman of God. It is a welcome move!
Also one factor we fail to understand is that the Bible says a man shall not wear women's clothing and vice versa.
While I am not challenging the man of God, I am just airing my views as I understand it. It is almost impossible for a man to wear a woman's trousers because it is tailored differently. It is specifically tailored for a woman and If I am not mistaken, I think the zipper faces a different direction.
So if a woman is wearing trousers specifically tailored for a woman and it is not revealing or super tight, can you then still say that she is wearing a mans attire? I have seen skirts that looks like it was tailored in hell by the devil himself and I have seen trousers worn by women that is decent enough for a priests daughter.

[oluranti]

I don't disagree it but the bible says come as you are.

It is true that God said come as you are but He did not say you should remain the same. The scripture is meant to transform your life. If you dont change then you have not encountered Him

[Theta2000]

Could someone please help point me to the thread where women's dress code was discussed?

There is no where in the Bible where women are barred from wearing trousers. The instruction was that the Israelites should not cross dress to remove the gender difference, which at the time was the way of idolaters.



Gracias!

[oluranti]

Could someone please help point me to the thread where women's dress code was discussed?

There is no where in the Bible where women are barred from wearing trousers. The instruction was that the Israelites should not cross dress to remove the gender difference, which at the time was the way of idolaters.



Gracias!

In Nigeria, and probably Africa, by extension, Trousers is not for women. None of our traditional wears in Yoruba land, Igbo culture or even the Hausa belief sees trouser as a woman's dress.

Even the trousers that is worn in islamic schools in Nigeria is an affectation from religious culture of the Arabs. Simply put, our culture does not see trouser as a thing for the woman.

[Theta2000]

In Nigeria, and probably Africa, by extension, Trousers is not for women. None of our traditional wears in Yoruba land, Igbo culture or even the Hausa belief sees trouser as a woman's dress.

Even the trousers that is worn in islamic schools in Nigeria is an affectation from religious culture of the Arabs. Simply put, our culture does not see trouser as a thing for the woman.So which culture stipulates Trousers for men? Black Africans never wore Trousers until Western civilization began to trickle into Africa, but before then, both men and women were wearing "bante."

BTW: Biblical injunction is the code by which all believers in Christ are bound, not some Yoruba/African culture.

[oluranti]

Dont forget that the Bible contains some cultural notions. Basically, the BIble can be categorised into Laws governing relationship among human beings and laws governing relationship between man and God. In laws relating to human relations, cultures and lifestyle comes in. If it were not perceived that women or men would wear each other's clothing the law would not have been.

However, if you say a pair of trouser is not a man's piece, look at the traditional wears around Africa and tell me who wears trouser. We have imbibed the religion, but our culture tells us what is a man's wear and since we know, we shouldnt shy away from doing the right.

Oyinbo man, in his culture does not see trouser as being for man alone, so he feels no guilt allowing his wife to wear it. Same way, the bible says "honour your father and your mother..." but oyinbo man calls his father by his first name and tells him "Dont be silly!" when he is being silly. But in Africa, that does not give honour to parents. It is their culture but we will not copy it.

Lets, separate culture from religion so we can do the right thing

[vronnie]

It is true that God said come as you are but He did not say you should remain the same. The scripture is meant to transform your life. If you dont change then you have not encountered Him

and because you wear trousers means you have not changed?

[Theta2000]

Lets, separate culture from religion so we can do the right thingExactly what I am doing on this thread.

Dont forget that the Bible contains some cultural notions. Basically, the Bible can be categorised into Laws governing relationship among human beings and laws governing relationship between man and God. In laws relating to human relations, cultures and lifestyle comes in. If it were not perceived that women or men would wear each other's clothing the law would not have been.The problem with many Bible thumpers is their lack of historical backgrounds upon which certain laws and prohibitions are stipulated in the Bible. Cross dressing is a sin when you, Oluranti, sees a person and cannot tell the gender. Any dress code that abrogates the gender difference is sinful, and that is what God warned the Israelites against! One might ask why God forbid cross-dressing! Put simply: the inhabitants of the neighboring cities were idolaters, and in the course of worshiping their idols, cross dressing was required - men would appear as women, and women as men.

However, if you say a pair of trouser is not a man's piece, look at the traditional wears around Africa and tell me who wears trouser. We have imbibed the religion, but our culture tells us what is a man's wear and since we know, we shouldnt shy away from doing the right.The cultural bias you are airing on this thread is after the fact. We did not invent Trousers and other English dresses which act as springboard for some of our locally made dresses.

Oyinbo man, in his culture does not see trouser as being for man alone, so he feels no guilt allowing his wife to wear it. Same way, the bible says "honour your father and your mother..." but oyinbo man calls his father by his first name and tells him "Dont be silly!" when he is being silly. But in Africa, that does not give honour to parents. It is their culture but we will not copy it.God respects our will though we are His creation; so in that light, God reckons as sin whatever the culture sanctions as crime, so if Oyinbos turn around and declare as crime inane comments from children to their parents, such declaration will be reckoned as SIN but, until then, whatever is allowed on earth is allowed in heaven, and whatsoever is disallowed in heaven is disallowed on earth - applicable to Christians, though.

The latter part of my comment is the only ground upon which Pastor Adeboye's recent ban on women wearing Trousers is tenable; any other ground is baseless and unscriptural.

[oluranti]

@ Theta 2000:The latter part of my comment is the only ground upon which Pastor Adeboye's recent ban on women wearing Trousers is tenable; any other ground is baseless and unscriptural.

Am glad your last statement is derived from my example of the oyinbo lifestyle and belif. Am also glad that we now have a common ground of agreement that culture can indicate what is termed as sin.

Am really glad that you now see that the man of God has a ground for saying it. Chikena!

[xeun]

Just heard that the ban on trousers is actually for church workers not the whole congregation.this confirms what i know obtains before in the church.

[oluranti]

Just heard that the ban on trousers is actually for church workers not the whole congregation.this confirms what i know obtains before in the church.

What's that?

[diamond]

This thread is like a hot debate.But ask me my views,i'll say trouser wearing women are not "outlandish".What do we actually see as SIN?There are issues that are more aborminable that should be adressed in the church rather than trouser wearing women.Even in our native attires be it iro and buba or skirt and blouse,our attractive contours could be revealed.Some poeple are even more eyecatchy in their native attires and a man could loose concentration in the church if he doesnt know his mission in the church.Now what am i tryin to say?,talk about fornication and adultryy(sexcapades) happening in the church rather than trivial matters.Sins like adultry drives away the Holy Spirit.

[oluranti]

Diamond, i agree with you that there are many pressing issues in the church. However you need a starting point to address them.

I guess Pastor Adeboye sees trouser wearing as one of the starting points. The fornication and adultery you talked about may have sprung up from the seductive dressing. Trouser wearing by women may have been seen as seductive, especially the way most of them wear it in Lagos.

[acoustictunez]

sincerely, this issue about trousers by ladies in church is a very dicy one and can continue till God knows when.
before we can start arguing right or wrong, there are somethings we must consider.
first is this: for whayt purpose are we in church?
two: nwhat things inhibit the fufilment of this purpose?

when we are able to answer these questions then we will know to address the situation.

granted, some ladies have taken advantage of this to really wear stuffs to church, you know, coming to church and looking as though you came for party.

but we have to admit this fact: the vision has a packaging, a dress code and an identity.

my opinion is that so long as you look descent and do not in anyway interfere with the worship of the next fella, wear watever you want,trousers or no. God is not interested in how you look but how you think and your hearts contents. Know your identity. you are the image of God. you are a joint heir with christ, and by extension, a king in your own right. therefore, dress like one. a king is always decently dressed because people are looking up to him/her.

i think we should focus on the identity of a beliver and how to potray that identity. like yago said, there are skirts that re worse than the tightest fitting trousers. so, lets begin to know who we truly are and start behaving and filling out the personality cos then and only then will this issue of trousers be resolved.

[chines]

In Nigeria, and probably Africa, by extension, Trousers is not for women. None of our traditional wears in Yoruba land, Igbo culture or even the Hausa belief sees trouser as a woman's dress.

Even the trousers that is worn in islamic schools in Nigeria is an affectation from religious culture of the Arabs. Simply put, our culture does not see trouser as a thing for the woman.

Oluranti, I don’t know the part of Nigeria that you come from, but in Igbo Land our forefathers wore animal skin, then during early time of westernization, they tie wrapper, then recently trouser. Our women too started from animal skin to beads and wrappers that cover only breast and hips with lots of laps to show. I need not tell you that if any lady dress like that to enter any church that the whole congregation will think that she is mad. So my friend trouser is not meant for men only, we imported the culture from the western world, and in the western world both male and female wears trouser.

We should be talking about decent dressing; ladies even look more decent in corporate trousers than skirts. It’s even safer, in terms of crises, harassment from area boys, riding on Okada (commercial motorcycle). So personally am against the ban, Catholic Church started it in Nigeria, Am a catholic, I was against it, and am still against it. Just be decent in your dressing knowing that you’re going to church, and not party.

[oluranti]

Chines, am a Nigerian, where i come from does not really matter. (So says Beneli).

To your issue. White man brought trousers but he did not teach our ladies to wear it. In primary school, the white man gave boys knicker and shirt but gave girls gown/dress.

In secondary school, white man gave boys knickers/ trousers and gave girls gown or skirt and blouse. This is a way of telling us how to use their dress. You start teaching your child from childhood, what he/ she would be when he /she grows up.

Our ladies have coveted the aspect they want but let them not use it to harrasss us!

[diamond]

Whatever u think about ladies wearing trousers to church is definitely your pinion and u're entitled to it.Like some one said here,some ladies look more decent in trousers more than skirts.It saves them a lot of stress like some one rightly pointed out here.

[oluranti]

Whatever u think about ladies wearing trousers to church is definitely your pinion and u're entitled to it.Like some one said here,some ladies look more decent in trousers more than skirts.It saves them a lot of stress like some one rightly pointed out here.

You are right Diamond. It's my opinion. You are also right, it is their body and convenience. But you also have to acknowledge that Pastor Adeboye is also right because he is the leader of the RCCG and he has a right to determine how people comport themselves in the church he leads.